Friday, August 3, 2012

Planning Your Fall Purchases...{Part Two}

As you know, I had initially planned on posting my own Fall wishlist as Part Two of my 'Planning Your Fall Purchases...' series. (If you missed Part One you can read it here.) However, I received an email from one of my readers the day I posted part one, asking an important and relevant question that I think should be shared, especially with all the discussions going on in our blog community this week.

Her question asked, "How do you keep within the guidelines when others bloggers are gushing about an item? Do you feel the 'pressure' to buy this item the blogosphere is raving about, even though you did not find anything great about it in the first place until you heard the buzz?"



Keeping up with the Joneses...or not.

My answer to her question is yes, there was a time when I did constantly feel pressured to buy things that other bloggers were gushing about, or that were getting a lot of buzz in the blogosphere. So much so that it often got me in trouble financially, since I rarely stayed on budget. I had to get to a point where I made myself realize that they have different lives from me. That just because they may be able to afford something, have the lifestyle for it, and it looks great on them, doesn’t necessarily mean it will do all of those things for me. I constantly have to focus on only making purchases for my lifestyle and the things I do on a daily basis. I have to focus on sticking with the clothing styles, colors, and silhouettes I know work for my personal body type, too. I’m not saying it is at all easy to do this and the temptation is often still there, but now I am more disciplined in the way I handle the temptation. Taking a deep breath and shutting down the computer for several hours has really helped me during these times, and so does thinking about whether I am considering the purchase of an item for my 'aspirational' life, or for the life I am actually living on a daily basis.

I am extremely appreciative for all the bloggers who take time to post reviews, share photos of their outfits, blog about the deals they have gotten, among other things. Being a blogger myself, I know how incredibly time consuming it is, and how scary it can be to 'put yourself out there' sharing photos, bits of your personal life, and even recent purchases. At the same time, I think it is important that all the product reviews, sales information and updates, PSAs about markdowns, and other similar topics do get shared, in order to help others make informed decisions and/or get the best price when purchasing. I personally have always had a 'knack' for finding amazing deals, keeping up with sales, and tracking down long gone items. I love to be able to share those things with others, not only in my offline life, but online as well, and that is one of the reasons I have those types of posts on my blog...I want my readers to have the opportunity to get amazing bargains too! I also think the posts play a role in helping others to be well-informed and savvy shoppers, which I think is very important when shopping both online and/or in the stores.


When I am shopping for a specific item online, I personally do a google search for reviews and coupon codes on that item before clicking the submit order button, and I am always thrilled when the search pulls up links to blogs or websites with reviews, or special deals. In doing this though, I do realize that it is my own personal responsibility to make sure my purchases are within my budget, that they fit with my lifestyle, and that I don't get caught up in a sale frenzy, or give into the desire of 'Keeping Up With the Joneses', which in this day and age I would consider to mainly be the blogging community (at least for many of us).

Funny thing...as I type this, I realize that I really never feel the need to keep up with, or have any of the things that my friends and peers in my offline life have, yet I have repeatedly felt the need to buy something that I see another blogger wearing or carrying. Perhaps because as others have noted, in our online community we seem to be drawn to other women with similar interests and tastes in clothing. We know that they appreciate the trouble we go through to stalk an item we missed out on for a popback, and then be thrilled for us when we actually score it. We know that they understand how amazing it feels to get a blouse or skirt originally priced at an amount way out of our price range, for under $100. We know they would appreciate the 'dressed up' outfit we are wearing on any given day to run errands or go to work. We know that they also get excited when New Arrivals go up online, or when an extra % off is offered. For many of us, we do not have people in our offline lives that share these types of feelings, or that even care to have these kinds of shopping experiences. Not that they don't give us compliments on our outfits or individual items, but actually wearing or owning those items seem less important to them. I know that I am a 'clothes person'. I have always loved clothing, fashion, shopping, putting outfits together, and dressing in a way that shows I care about myself, and others whom I come in contact with. I know that many other women in our online community are the same way.



Now getting back to my answer to the question asked...I do know how difficult it can be to not get caught up in the 'buzz' about a specific item. To not feel a strong desire to have the bag, dress, shoes, or other item you see someone wearing so fabulously online. To not want an item that isn't in your personal budget when it appears that so many others online are affording it. When I am faced with these temptations (and I still am on a regular basis), I remind myself that I need to think about my own life, my own budget, and my own shopping list. I need to think about whether or not that item is actually flattering for my body type and coloring, if it will work in my already existing wardrobe, and if I am buying it for my aspirational life or the one I am actually living right now. I'm not saying that it is easy to do, but I am saying that it is possible to do. :)

What are your thoughts? Do you find it difficult to resist the temptation of buying items you see others wearing online? Do you feel pressure to purchase items you hear 'buzz' about in the blogosphere? Do you have your own way of avoiding shopping temptations? Please do share! I always love to hear from you! :)


***Update: Planning Your Fall Purchases...{Part Three} can now be seen here.

xoxo,

55 comments:

  1. Oh darn, I have to run to work and this looks like a great topic! You've really nailed the point about finding "kindred spirits" online and how that affects our wants in a way that is different than the influences of our RL family and friends. I look forward to reading the posts.

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    1. Thanks Hexicon! I hope you had a good day at work, and that you'll stop back by to comment when you have the time. I'd love to hear more of your thoughts on the subject. :)

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  2. Great post! I love the online shopping blogs. I appreciate the pictures and reviews. I look forward to reading them everyday. I'd have a much fatter wallet if I stopped reading and looking. Hee! But what's the fun in that! I love clothes and jewelry and enjoying sharing. And I agree 100% that it's vital to live in our real life.....This is what I do. When I'm confronted with a garment I ask this question "Is this useful for your real life or is this something for your "fantasy" life? Because if I don't do this and I buy the fantasy garment I'll look in my closet the next day and say "What woman bought THAT?". It helps me keep down to earth. Now I have to start the budget part of all this. I am going to try really hard to start a monthly budget.....starting next month. Hee!

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    1. Thank you straycat! I also enjoy visiting all the blogs everyday. It's fun to see what everyone is up to each day. :)

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  3. Another great post! I have purchased in the past an item or two that I have seen or heard about on blogs. I find that in the end it is not worn much and a waste of money. It is easy to spend money one does not have with all the hype , but I am working hard to avoid this type of buying. I have my list and am sticking to it, but I still love reading and seeing all the reviews. Have a great day!!

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    1. Thanks mini! I have a couple of those items myself and now try to avoid making similar mistakes. Making a list and sticking to it has really helped me with that, too. Enjoy your weekend! :)

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  4. FFM, just this morning an online blogger friend emailed me a link to a dress she thought was "me" and it had just been marked down. She was right, it is definitely my style and the price was certainly right. BUT, here's the big but, it was not on my fall purchase list. Ta da! End of discussion, step away from the mouse. I am so grateful for your first planning post. I did it, I have a list and I'm sticking to it.

    Having said all that, I absolutely think I've purchased things or contemplated purchasing because I've seen an item on a blog. Sometimes that's been a good decision because I tend to visit blogs written by people who have similar lifestyles to mine. The thing I have to keep in mind is body type. Just because it looks amazing on someone else doesn't mean it will on me, as you've so eloquently stated in your post above. I think I'm sticking pretty closely to my own personal style now, in these last few years. After massive closet purges that left me a bit depressed about the unworn new with tags clothes and the money wasted, I'm a different shopper these days.

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    1. Hi Desert Flower! I understand how you feel about the closet purges of new with tags clothing, as I have been there myself. I am also a different shopper these days and much happier with the purchases I do make now, too. :)

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  5. I like the post topic - which is so relevant this week. Like you, most of my offline friends, though many are "clothes people too", don't give a hoot about the latest sale or scoping out a trend. My online friends are much more like me in their ability to discuss clothing all day long. I appreciate blogger reviews and get a kick out of reading comments on the JCA. Has all of this blogging lead me to purchases I don't need? No. Not really. Has it lead me to the store to try stuff on - absolutely, but in the same way I'll want to try on an item a well put together SA is wearing. I find most of the bloggers I follow have far different body types and lifestyles than I do. Shopping for my aspirational life or career is a bigger issue for me than the devil of comparison, but I'm working on it. It isn't easy - but like you said, it can be done.

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    1. Thanks Julie! Well, it is definitely more fun to shop for an aspirational life, isn't it? That is one of the areas in which I think I struggle the most and encounter the most temptations, too. It isn't always easy to stay strong, but I'm hoping it will get easier as time goes on. :)

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  6. Great post! Since working on my list, I am getting more disciplined! I almost succumbed yesterday when the byzantine blue bag went on sale, but I had a black leather satchel on my list, had already bought one at an amazing price and did not need the bag, so deleted it. I am debating a $34 pencil skirt in black today - it is not on this fall's list, but necessary for next summer (I have wished I had one all summer long - so that I might pop for!)

    I have been guilty of this aspirational dressing and getting caught up in something after seeing a blog buddy where it so well. What I realized pretty quickly that people's styles and bodies are their own - I may share a love of a certain item, but many will not work on my body type - I actually just sold the long sleeve sequin t to a fellow JCA just this week - I bought it after seeing how fabulous it looked on others, neglecting to remember how short I am and how long tops make me look like I am playing dress up!It has found a good home elsewhere!


    I have made a promise to myself to not get caught up in this anymore. Your advice has been invaluable for this FFM and my wallet is thanking you! It can be an endless cycle, since there is always some other fabulous item! I am actually cancelling a pre-order on something today - I am second guessing myself and that is a sign!

    Am finishing my fall plan this weekend - between you and Dani - you have me on the straight and narrow. A plan and a colour story is a lifesaver! I hope to have no orphans in the closet this fall!

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    1. Thanks WMM! I'm really so glad that these posts have been helpful to you! I'm really looking forward to hearing all about your fall plan once you finish. Enjoy your vacation! :)

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  7. True, I have completely changed my mind about something I didn't like at first shot, after seeing it on blogs and reading reviews. Over time, too, the blogs I read have become less blindly adulatory and more thoughtful. This has helped, although I still remember the blogger who had bought the flamingo feather mini to wear to Las Vegas, and posted a picture to prove it. I didn't find that review helpful, but I bet she doesn't read me either.

    This was a great post, FFM, as was its predecessor. This morning and yesterday I noticed a lot of attention directed to scarves in Blogworld, and I think this may be a healthy sign to the extent that people are focussing on how to make the same outfit look different, dressier, sporty-er, rather than just buying a whole new outfit.

    I am looking forward to a lively discussion!

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    1. Thank you wellfedfred! A flamingo feather mini you say? I have never been to Vegas, but I would imagine that it was still a sight to see. Did she mention being mistaken for a show girl?

      I noticed that discussion on scarves and think you're right. Perhaps more people are learning to make do with what they have, instead of always looking to get something new.

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  8. whoops! that would be "wear it so well"... typing too quickly...

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  9. Wow; these posts are so helpful. I hope you do include your list in a part 3, as some of us need some guidance for how to make sure we have at least great basics to build on.

    I have been overwhelmed by the intelligence, wit and graciousness in the JCA community and 'associated' blogs. It is rare, I think, to find this large a group of women that, on the whole, are intelligent and thoughtful.

    I love reading the blogs, but I have certainly purchased things I shouldn't have (either didn't need, or they don't work for my body type or lifestyle) because I fell for the items after seeing them look so great on someone else. One recent example is the painted rope pencil skirt. I am very tall, and somewhat thicker waisted, but saw this skirt on two petite bloggers and thought it was lovely. I realized I had a 'problem' when, after receiving and trying the skirt (thank goodness not on FS), I was still obsessed with it even after realizing it looked horrid on me. It did me no favors, and did not have a place in my wardrobe. That has made me start asking myself, before hitting the 'confirm order' button: 1) do I need it? 2) is this another painted rope skirt (for me)?

    Sorry to ramble. Thanks so much for the great topic!

    Wendy

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    1. Thanks Wendy! You are not rambling at all, and I truly appreciate you taking the time to stop by and share your thoughts! I will definitely share my list in another post one day next week. :)

      Good for you realizing that you need to ask yourself those 2 questions before ordering! I'm sure it has saved you many unwanted purchases and returns so far. :)

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  10. Hi FFM,

    I love this post! I have bought a few items others were raving about, but I've made my list of 'needs' and will check it twice before I buy anything staring NOW! It is going to be hard, but like Desert Flower said, 'step away from the mouse!' Fashion blogs are great for reviews of items, but these blogs also inspire and motivate me to be a lot more mindful of how I spend.

    I'm going to shop my closet a lot more than online. Also, I took your advice about taking pictures of outfits so I always have a reference to go to instead of just mindlessly buying stuff on the web. While looking through my closet, I found a pair of black slacks that I had forgotten about! It's still new and I think I wore it once back in 2007! See what happens when you actually look THROUGH all the clothing? It was a nice surprise.

    Your posts have inspired me to be more aware of what I already have and appreciate the still nice looking items hanging in the closet. My mom who is the practical realist always says, "you're not going to die if you don't have this item." She can be dramatic but you get the point!

    Thank you for bringing up such an important topic, especially since the holiday season is just around the corner!

    Happy Friday!

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    1. Thank you Wendy! I'm so glad to hear that you started taking pictures of your outfits. It really does make getting dressed much easier and enjoyable. Isn't it amazing what you find when you actually go through your closet? It is so easy to forget about items when they aren't worn on a regular basis (or never worn at all), even the ones we just 'had to have'. Thank you for stopping by to share your thoughts, and for letting me know these posts have inspired you...I truly appreciate it! :)

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  11. Hi FFM, what a wonderful post! I was doing so well until J Crew posted their Fall clothes, my budget and willpower went out the window and my cc bill went up. Reading blogs are helpful but they can lead you down a path that is not so budget friendly. I am expecting 4 parcels next week, 2 of those are unplanned purchases I bought after reading reviews, I got caught up in the hype. I will be returning those 2 parcels to J Crew, and will be much more careful in the future.

    casual crew

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    1. Thank you casual crew! It's great to 'see' you again! How is everything going for you these days? Are you enjoying your new place?

      I know that fall is very tempting for many of us when it comes to clothing. All the beautiful jackets, sweaters, etc. that come with the fall season can be very hard to resist. I find that keeping focus on the items that you need and/or will work in your existing wardrobe is really helpful in staying on track and avoiding unplanned purchases.

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    2. Hi casual crew! Haven't seen you in forever.

      A fall clothes issue that I run across is that the area I live in tends to "skip" spring and fall and go into "instant summer" and "instant winter". Because of this, the blazers in my closet often go unworn - it's either too hot to wear them as a jacket in the spring, or too cold to wear them in the winter without a coat over them which feels uncomfortable. Even though I like the way they look, I don't wear them and I'm vowing not to add any more to my closet!

      I love the idea of keeping a list of fall items for shopping. I would never go to the grocery store without my detailed list and menus for the week - so why do I shop online without any sort of idea of what I want?

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    3. Hi silver_lining, I have been lurking more than posting, nice to see you back too.

      FFM I have to thank you, today when I was in a store returning an item that I did not need I thought about this post, and I felt alot better for doing it.

      I just want add I find the reviews invaluable, tempting for sure I just have to exercise more willpower.

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    4. Thanks for stopping by silver_lining! We do not get much of a spring with cooler temps here, either. We go from our 'winter' almost straight to summer-like temps, so if I do wear a jacket in the spring it is when I know I'm going to be inside the majority of the time. I can definitely understand why you are vowing not to buy anymore if there is never the right time of year for them. At least that will be money saved to go towards something else that you will be able to wear more often. :)

      Btw, I hope all is going well with you and your new little one! Did you have a boy or girl?

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  12. Another great post FFM!
    Yes,i have fallen prey to the reviews where i bought stuff i didnt need or dont fit my lifestyle. But i have also gotten better and learned a lot from other bloggers.
    i think there is a fine line between trying new stuff i would have never tried and purchasing clothes for a fantasy world.
    I think i kind of know my style now and i def. know my budget,so i (try) to stick to it most of the time.

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    1. Thank you Ina! :) I can see how your personal style has developed in all of your IRL pics on your blog. Isn't it nice to know what is going to work for you and what isn't? It sure does make shopping a lot easier! :)

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  13. Such a great post. I don't usually comment but read through google reader daily and felt compelled to applaud you on what you've shared.

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    1. Thank you so much Dea! I really appreciate you taking the time to stop by to comment today. :)

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  14. Love this post and I whole heartedly agree with it! It is actually pretty hard not to get caught up in what everyone else is loving. This is always good to remember.
    Creamy

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    1. Thank you Emily! I appreciate you stopping by to share your thoughts today! Enjoy your weekend! :)

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  15. So well said. I, too, read reviews all the time and appreciate how much time you devote to your writing. Sometimes a good find is something you just have to share!

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    1. Thank you KnitYarns! I was just thinking that same thing today! Sometimes you just have to share your find with others you know will appreciate it and be excited for you. My hubby tries to act like he understands, but I know he just doesn't get my excitement over a fabulous find or deal. I imagine that is the same for many other women, too.

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  16. FFM, great insight! In getting older I have the ability to look back to past seasons when I have wanted to completely change my "look" at the beginning, only to fall back into my same comfort zone by season's end. All the clothes I bought at the beginning of the season are not worn and my attempts to be a different person failed. Now I am much more realistic because I know the pattern I have fallen into and guard against the urge to re-create myself at the change of a season. I stick to my basics and add a few special pieces or new color theme for the season without going crazy trying to get a "new look."
    Age has its benefits!
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    Sandee
    from katespade-aholic.com

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    1. Thank you Sandee! You bring up a good point about realizing the patterns you fall into and guarding against those urges. Becoming aware like that is a large factor in helping to avoid many shopping temptations and mistakes. I also think this gets easier with time and with age. Thank you for stopping by to share your thoughts! :)

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  17. FFM, this series is amazing! I feel like the temptation is too great sometimes with all of the beautiful items that are out there. I have really taken your advice to heart and am going to make a budget and plan my purchases wisely. I can't thank you enough!

    Cortney

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  18. I love your posts and must compliment you on how insightful and helpful your fall planning posts have been. I have definitely bought a few items based on blogs and the hype but am trying to be more careful now. I think the reviews from blogs are invaluable because you get a better sense than you do from the JC website for instance.

    I have often bought items for my 'aspirational life' so I keep reminding myself to buy for my real day to day life. I'm approaching this fall with a plan and a more careful budget. Thank you for your posts as they have really helped!

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    1. jan: Thank you so much for your kind words! I appreciate you letting me know that they have helped you. :)

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  19. Like everyone else I want to thank you for your wonderful "planning the fall wardrobe" posts. I've made a wishlist on my iPhone since then. The last few days when I felt temptations I looked at my list. Really kept me in check! I also started a list of purchases on my phone to record month-to-month spendings. With prices next to what I bought it's like looking at my next month's CC statement, which is also a good disciplining device. All these actions seem obvious but "writing" things down really helps. Before that I made mental lists, which sometimes became fuzzy. This is better!

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    1. Thank you Greta! Yes, looking at your list in times of temptation really does help you to stay on track. I know for me, it also helps me stay focused on the 'bigger picture' of the items I really need or want, so I'm not squandering away the money I'm saving for those items.

      Btw, I love that you put your list on your phone to take with you always. :)

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  20. Hi FFM-Thank you so much for your fall wardrobe posts. I used the "walk away from the computer" strategy yesterday and I wasn't even tempted today-yay! I confess I have made some past purchases influenced by the adulation of the blogosphere, but I've tried hard in the last few months to be more true to my real life wardrobe. Your posts this week have given me more determination to resist the upcoming season's temptations.

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    1. Hi David! Isn't it amazing how well it works to just step away from the computer? Shutting it down and going about your every day activities really helps to take the focus off of whatever item is was your were considering. It has helped me avoid unnecessary and regrettable purchases many, many times. :)

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  21. Great post! I follow so many fashion blogs with woman that seem to have bigger budgets than me! It's hard to not want to buy, buy, buy! I really just try to use these blogs as inspirations and try to buy cheaper items or buy a key piece as opposed to spending a lot of money one one whole outfit.

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    1. Thank you Kaolee! I appreciate you taking the time to stop by and share your thoughts and tips! :)

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  22. I think I made more purchasing mistakes before I started reading blogs. Then when I started reading blogs, I made a few more mistakes before I found my style. Now I still make the occasional mistake (navy domino eyelet cafe capris, I am looking at you!), beg for mercy for a final sale return, etc, but as long as I avoid anything Final Sale I don't mind trying out a trend or a high-interest item. It might go back, but I don't consider it a mistake to have tried it. I consider it part of the process of finding out what works for me. Anyway, I find the blogs very fun and helpful and I like seeing what's new even if I'm not going to buy it.

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    1. Hi Cate! It IS fun to see what's new even if you aren't going to buy it, isn't it? It's like window shopping online. :)

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  23. A little late to the party here--TBH I must admit that the blogs are a big influence on me. FFM, as you and others posted, sometimes those we know IRL don't "get" the pleasure of a beautiful wardrobe the way that we do, what Jane Austen called "a harmless delight in being fine." (Which would be the title of my blog if I ever wrote one!) For that reason I really value the opportunity to discuss those topics on the blogs. I have definitely made mistakes based on raves from blogosphere--I have to remind myself that their figures, lives, and budgets are very different from mine. At the same time, the reviews and IRL picks are so valuable. I have to use them to avoid the bad rather than go for good I can't afford or don't need.

    A question I continue to ask myself is how to distinguish between the wardrobe basic needs and the non-necessary but smashing finds we encounter from time to time. For example, it's hard for me to say I "needed" my orange Biella loafers, but they were one of my best purchases this year. This fall my only "needs," in the sense of actual wardrobe holes, are a camel pencil skirt and a black blazer (something like the 2008 Maggie). But I am really drawn to the Martina wedges in jazzy purple. Do I need purple wedges? No. But are they worth the "wow" factor anyway?

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    1. Hi Hexicon! Better late than never, as the saying goes! Thank you for stopping back by! :)

      I know how you feel about the wardrobe basic needs versus the non-necessary finds (which I categorize as wants). At the top of my list this year is the J.Crew Double-breasted schoolboy blazer. I definitely don't need it, but when I tried it on in the store a few weeks ago, I absolutely got 'the feeling', and immediately knew I wanted to add it to my wardrobe this fall. It's one of those pieces that I'm really looking forward to wearing, and can't wait to get it (I'm currently on waitlist for it). I have it planned into my fall budget, and think it will be more than worth the money to me in the end.

      Even though it is a good idea to make sure the needs are covered, I don't think there is anything wrong with getting the items on your list that fall into the 'want' category if you have the funds available. We all need a little something special 'just because' every now and then. As you said, sometimes those items become your best purchases of the year, and speaking from personal experience I can say that in some cases, even longer than that. :)

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  24. fabulous post ffm.

    i hate to always throw my age into the equation but as an *older* woman. putting stars around that word makes it nicer, don't you think? i've seen so many trends come and go that for me to get lured into the next best thing just doesn't happen that much. sticking to your true self slowly but surely builds a wardrobe that is so well suited for YOU that trends rarely rock the boat. does that make sense? that being said, there is nothing wrong with infusing the closet from time to time with something new and fabulous, whether it is 2nd hand or not. for me 2nd hand clothing has so much more personality. but that's me. and i think that is what true lovers of fashion are so good at. the mix. i feel like i'm starting to ramble here but i think you get my drift. it's all about making whatever you've got, whatever you can afford - your own. if i spend too much time lusting after anothers wardrobe or life for that matter (which i have) then i start to lose myself. i think when i dress within the parameters of what works for me, that is when i feel my best. gosh, i don't know if any of this is making sense. hopefully you can sort it out. hahha. great post and thanks for making me think today! xo janet

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    1. Thank you Janet! :) Yes, what you said makes perfect sense! I think it is so important to stay true to yourself, your style, your beliefs, and everything else that makes you 'you'. Doing this creates confidence and does help you to feel at your best, instead of comparing yourself to others, and constantly feeling not quite 'up to par'. As the saying goes, "Comparison is the thief of joy". I know for a fact that I am the most happy when I remain thankful for all that I do have, instead of focusing on what I don't have. :)

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  25. I guess I might be in the minority here due to my upbringing. My parents were great and really drilled home the idea of NOT keeping up with the jones and only buying what you can afford. My husband is of the same upbringing. So, no, while I enjoy the blogs and photos very much I buy what I need and like and don't try to buy an item just b/c it is "hot":)

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  26. This post has definitely made me pause and think! I was in a store the other day (J Crew of course!) and I was saying to myself, is this on my fall list??

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    1. Thanks TC! I do the same thing, and it really helps me stay on track and avoid temptations. :)

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  27. I have definitely fallen prey to buying something I think looks great on a blogger or that gets raves. It was pretty bad for a while and I think I have done a good job of reining myself in more recently. What I realized was that many of the items I love on you fabulous bloggers just don't fit into my lifestyle as a SAHM of 2 kids. I do a little bit of part time work but have more than enough to cover the little bit of work I do. I constantly try to remind myself of this, and most of the time, it works. Not always, though!

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